Nagel’s bat doesn’t demonstrate incompleteness in materialist science | coelsblog
You'll never know what it's like to be a bat. And that's OK.
Richard Carrier Blogs: Defining the Supernatural
"Supernatural" doesn't necessarily mean untestable.
No One is Born Gay (or Straight): Here Are 5 Reasons Why | Social (In)Queery
Well, that's interesting. Maybe it's true.
Stephen Fry — Am I an Islamophobe?
He of brain-the-size-of-the-Universe finds himself having to say it yet again. And I'm guessing it won't be the last time.
Monday, 2 September 2013
Sunday, 25 August 2013
Cold cases solved by magic? — J. Warner Wallace's Cold Case Christianity
I got the Kindle version of this book for free a few months ago. It's divided broadly into two sections, the first dealing with the techniques of criminal detection, with specific reference to "cold cases" — unsolved crimes (usually murders) where the original witnesses are no longer available, although there is documentary evidence of what they said during the original investigation. Wallace draws parallels between these cold cases and the claims of Christianity where, likewise, the original witnesses to the life of Jesus are no longer available, although there is documentary evidence of what they saw and heard. This is fine as far as it goes, but there is a glaring mismatch in the kind of evidence we should be looking for. Murders are commonplace; resurrections are not. So although being convinced "beyond reasonable doubt" ought to be as sufficient to draw an inference regarding a resurrection as it is regarding a murder, the real question is what counts as "reasonable" in either scenario. The kind of evidence it is reasonable to expect for an event as extraordinary as a resurrection, is a different order of extraordinariness from that for a commonplace murder. From that perspective it appears Wallace is presenting a false equivalence.
It seems sensible enough, however, to use skills honed in the investigation of cold cases and apply them to the historicity of the New Testament, even if the subjects of investigation are not directly equivalent. But there's a nagging doubt that irked me throughout Wallace's anecdotes about cases he's worked: he appears certain that his techniques always produced a correct result — that he always got his man. I can recall no anecdotes in the book about cases where the defence was successful — where the accused was found not guilty. Presumably such cases exist (unless Wallace's skills are 100 per cent "successful"); it would have been interesting to read Wallace's interpretation of why he failed to secure a conviction. Perhaps he would say that the jury got it wrong. This is an important consideration, given that at the beginning of the book he makes much of the investigator's presuppositions and how they can influence the interpretation of evidence.
The presupposition Wallace seems most concerned about when considering evidence for the historicity of Jesus is the skeptic's alleged presupposition against supernaturalism. This concern is often expressed by religious apologists, and one can understand why, but here it appears a bit incongruous. Did Wallace have a presupposition against supernaturalism when working his cold case murders? If not, I'd like to know how he would deal with supernatural claims in witness statements. It's possible — even probable — that no witnesses ever made supernatural claims, so perhaps the question would not have arisen.
There's a reason such a question is likely not to have arisen, and that's because we do not see credible supernatural occurrences in the modern age. Ancient literature may report magical occurrences as if they are all in a day's work. These days, however, not so much. The vast majority of reported modern miracles, when properly investigated, turn out to be not supernatural. It is therefore entirely reasonable to presuppose that supernatural events reported in ancient literature were not, in fact, supernatural.
With regard to the motivations of the apostles, martyred for their beliefs, we must consider the possibility of self-delusion and hysteria. We know from modern studies of cults (religious and otherwise) that group dynamics and psychology can make people behave in very strange ways, including changing their beliefs. This could easily result in a kind of mass delusion about what really happened after the crucifixion. And even if some accounts were written down as early as a mere five years later as Wallace suggests, that's still plenty of time for memory to play some very cruel tricks. Some skeptics contend that the disciples engaged in a conspiracy regarding the resurrection of Jesus. Wallace devotes several pages to the infeasibility of large scale conspiracies without mentioning one obvious fact: large scale conspiracies always fail, except for the successful ones. But it's the successful ones we never hear about.
The second half of the book is an examination of the New Testament text, in an effort to show that as a collection of reports of what actually happened it is reliable, despite apparent contradictions, omissions and barely credible occurrences. This is necessarily compressed, presumably to fit some deep study into a limited word-count, but the compression contributes to a certain air of desperation exhibited in this section of the book. Wallace makes much of the correlations and consistency between various copies of the original autographs, claiming that these show that we can be reasonably sure what those autographs actually said. But as far as I'm aware the copies do not state what generation they are. Even if there are thousands of early copies that say the same thing, we cannot know whether or not they all derive from a very few (now lost) first or second generation copies that all contained the same errors or distortions.
J. Warner Wallace was the guest on Unbelievable? yesterday, answering questions from two skeptics. Having made a special effort to finish the book before listening to the programme, I didn't really gain anything extra from hearing the author précis his case, so the programme was a bit disappointing. I remain skeptical of the claims of the New Testament, and continue my presupposition against supernaturalism.
It seems sensible enough, however, to use skills honed in the investigation of cold cases and apply them to the historicity of the New Testament, even if the subjects of investigation are not directly equivalent. But there's a nagging doubt that irked me throughout Wallace's anecdotes about cases he's worked: he appears certain that his techniques always produced a correct result — that he always got his man. I can recall no anecdotes in the book about cases where the defence was successful — where the accused was found not guilty. Presumably such cases exist (unless Wallace's skills are 100 per cent "successful"); it would have been interesting to read Wallace's interpretation of why he failed to secure a conviction. Perhaps he would say that the jury got it wrong. This is an important consideration, given that at the beginning of the book he makes much of the investigator's presuppositions and how they can influence the interpretation of evidence.
The presupposition Wallace seems most concerned about when considering evidence for the historicity of Jesus is the skeptic's alleged presupposition against supernaturalism. This concern is often expressed by religious apologists, and one can understand why, but here it appears a bit incongruous. Did Wallace have a presupposition against supernaturalism when working his cold case murders? If not, I'd like to know how he would deal with supernatural claims in witness statements. It's possible — even probable — that no witnesses ever made supernatural claims, so perhaps the question would not have arisen.
There's a reason such a question is likely not to have arisen, and that's because we do not see credible supernatural occurrences in the modern age. Ancient literature may report magical occurrences as if they are all in a day's work. These days, however, not so much. The vast majority of reported modern miracles, when properly investigated, turn out to be not supernatural. It is therefore entirely reasonable to presuppose that supernatural events reported in ancient literature were not, in fact, supernatural.
With regard to the motivations of the apostles, martyred for their beliefs, we must consider the possibility of self-delusion and hysteria. We know from modern studies of cults (religious and otherwise) that group dynamics and psychology can make people behave in very strange ways, including changing their beliefs. This could easily result in a kind of mass delusion about what really happened after the crucifixion. And even if some accounts were written down as early as a mere five years later as Wallace suggests, that's still plenty of time for memory to play some very cruel tricks. Some skeptics contend that the disciples engaged in a conspiracy regarding the resurrection of Jesus. Wallace devotes several pages to the infeasibility of large scale conspiracies without mentioning one obvious fact: large scale conspiracies always fail, except for the successful ones. But it's the successful ones we never hear about.
The second half of the book is an examination of the New Testament text, in an effort to show that as a collection of reports of what actually happened it is reliable, despite apparent contradictions, omissions and barely credible occurrences. This is necessarily compressed, presumably to fit some deep study into a limited word-count, but the compression contributes to a certain air of desperation exhibited in this section of the book. Wallace makes much of the correlations and consistency between various copies of the original autographs, claiming that these show that we can be reasonably sure what those autographs actually said. But as far as I'm aware the copies do not state what generation they are. Even if there are thousands of early copies that say the same thing, we cannot know whether or not they all derive from a very few (now lost) first or second generation copies that all contained the same errors or distortions.
J. Warner Wallace was the guest on Unbelievable? yesterday, answering questions from two skeptics. Having made a special effort to finish the book before listening to the programme, I didn't really gain anything extra from hearing the author précis his case, so the programme was a bit disappointing. I remain skeptical of the claims of the New Testament, and continue my presupposition against supernaturalism.
Thursday, 22 August 2013
Burnee links for Thursday
'Persecuted' British Christians need to 'grow up', says former Archbishop Rowan Williams - Telegraph
Rowan Williams pooh-poohs "persecution".
Beyond Dawkins | Rationalist Association
Daniel Trilling is taking over editorship of New Humanist magazine in September, and here he sets out his stall. NH, during the few years I've been a subscriber, has appeared unafraid of publishing articles that are potentially counter to the views of its core readership. I hope that continues. (But what's happening to Caspar Melville?)
Do Not Link allows you to ethically criticize bad content | Skeptical Software Tools
Useful article from Tim Farley concerning how to link to bad content in social media or other sites that don't honour the NOFOLLOW HTML tag.
National Secular Society - Secularism for beginners
Excellent article. Bookmark it and send it to every religionist who insists on talking about "militant secularists".
Sorry Apologetics: an essay wherein I use lots of big words | godless in dixie
A good article that includes a concise explanation of presuppositional apologetics (aka BS).
Richard Dawkins attacks Muslim bigots, not just Christian ones. If only his enemies were as brave » The Spectator
About time. And in the Spectator. Nick Cohen says what all those loud and angry militant atheists have been too shy point out.
Dawkins gets a break at last « Why Evolution Is True
Jerry Coyne picks up on Nick Cohen's Spectator article.
Michael Shermer: Rapist or Sleaze? (Unless Box Checked for Other) » Richard Carrier Blogs
Good to read a rigorous analysis of what might have happened, and why it matters.
What do you do when someone pulls the pin and hands you a grenade? » Pharyngula
PZ presents the evidence Richard Carrier writes about in the previous link. Apparently Michael Shermer's lawyers have since issued PZ with a "cease and desist" letter.
Rowan Williams pooh-poohs "persecution".
Beyond Dawkins | Rationalist Association
Daniel Trilling is taking over editorship of New Humanist magazine in September, and here he sets out his stall. NH, during the few years I've been a subscriber, has appeared unafraid of publishing articles that are potentially counter to the views of its core readership. I hope that continues. (But what's happening to Caspar Melville?)
Do Not Link allows you to ethically criticize bad content | Skeptical Software Tools
Useful article from Tim Farley concerning how to link to bad content in social media or other sites that don't honour the NOFOLLOW HTML tag.
National Secular Society - Secularism for beginners
Excellent article. Bookmark it and send it to every religionist who insists on talking about "militant secularists".
Sorry Apologetics: an essay wherein I use lots of big words | godless in dixie
A good article that includes a concise explanation of presuppositional apologetics (aka BS).
Richard Dawkins attacks Muslim bigots, not just Christian ones. If only his enemies were as brave » The Spectator
About time. And in the Spectator. Nick Cohen says what all those loud and angry militant atheists have been too shy point out.
Dawkins gets a break at last « Why Evolution Is True
Jerry Coyne picks up on Nick Cohen's Spectator article.
Michael Shermer: Rapist or Sleaze? (Unless Box Checked for Other) » Richard Carrier Blogs
Good to read a rigorous analysis of what might have happened, and why it matters.
What do you do when someone pulls the pin and hands you a grenade? » Pharyngula
PZ presents the evidence Richard Carrier writes about in the previous link. Apparently Michael Shermer's lawyers have since issued PZ with a "cease and desist" letter.
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Absolutely misguided: theism's mental block
That Facebook thread mentioned in my previous post has been growing, but it's become clear to me that the author of the Original Post has some serious misunderstandings about atheism, materialism and naturalism. In this she's far from unique, and since the mental block she's exhibiting is one that other theists apparently share I thought I'd jot down some explanatory notes about such notions that I can refer to if (when!) such brain-jams come up in future.
The first, exemplified in the OP referred to above, is the notion that without God everything is pointless. The theist is saying that if God does not exist there's no point to anything at all — that if human beings are "merely" matter, then they don't … matter.
This misconception is tied up with the theistic idea of absolutes and ultimates (as are most theistic misconceptions, I might add). In this case the theist maintains that there must be God-given purpose for human life to have any meaning. This idea is so ingrained into religious thinking that many theists (the OP author cited above included) cannot see beyond it. To them, the idea of a world without God is simply too alien to be entertained. Some even suggest that if God didn't exist, they would resort to crime, and care nothing for their fellows.
This scary prospect is evidence of the second, related, theistic preoccupation with absolutes — that of objective morality. Many theists claim that morality is impossible without a transcendent moral law-giver. They claim their own morals come from scripture, and that even an unbeliever's morals are based (or borrowed) from the same scripture. Faced with an atheistic insistence that morality can be derived from circumstances and consequences, theists will often ask, "But why should you care what is good or bad? What makes one action 'better' than another, if there's no ultimate objective morality?" So, absolutes again. But what makes scriptural morality — rules written in a book — any better than moral guidelines derived from careful consideration of the likely outcomes of moral decisions? The answer of course is that it isn't better, it's actually worse. Personally I'd rather be subject to a moral code derived from analyses of circumstances and consequences, than to the arbitrary moral edicts of a Christian with a crib-sheet.
It seems to me that moral philosophy, neuroscience, cosmology and indeed physics in general are moving steadily in the direction of materialism and determinism and away from outdated concepts of dualism, the soul, free will and absolutes. Yet theists cling desperately to these notions because without them their faith makes no sense at all.
This week's Jesus and Mo is apposite:
http://www.jesusandmo.net/2013/08/21/soul/
The first, exemplified in the OP referred to above, is the notion that without God everything is pointless. The theist is saying that if God does not exist there's no point to anything at all — that if human beings are "merely" matter, then they don't … matter.
This misconception is tied up with the theistic idea of absolutes and ultimates (as are most theistic misconceptions, I might add). In this case the theist maintains that there must be God-given purpose for human life to have any meaning. This idea is so ingrained into religious thinking that many theists (the OP author cited above included) cannot see beyond it. To them, the idea of a world without God is simply too alien to be entertained. Some even suggest that if God didn't exist, they would resort to crime, and care nothing for their fellows.
This scary prospect is evidence of the second, related, theistic preoccupation with absolutes — that of objective morality. Many theists claim that morality is impossible without a transcendent moral law-giver. They claim their own morals come from scripture, and that even an unbeliever's morals are based (or borrowed) from the same scripture. Faced with an atheistic insistence that morality can be derived from circumstances and consequences, theists will often ask, "But why should you care what is good or bad? What makes one action 'better' than another, if there's no ultimate objective morality?" So, absolutes again. But what makes scriptural morality — rules written in a book — any better than moral guidelines derived from careful consideration of the likely outcomes of moral decisions? The answer of course is that it isn't better, it's actually worse. Personally I'd rather be subject to a moral code derived from analyses of circumstances and consequences, than to the arbitrary moral edicts of a Christian with a crib-sheet.
It seems to me that moral philosophy, neuroscience, cosmology and indeed physics in general are moving steadily in the direction of materialism and determinism and away from outdated concepts of dualism, the soul, free will and absolutes. Yet theists cling desperately to these notions because without them their faith makes no sense at all.
This week's Jesus and Mo is apposite:
http://www.jesusandmo.net/2013/08/21/soul/
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Tuesday, 20 August 2013
Another theist asks why atheists don't just kill themselves
From a link shared on Facebook, a theist claims — with what appears to be token bemusement — that atheists don't act out the consequences of their atheism:
Atheists Refusing to Act Like Atheists | Hard-Core Christianity
Wrong on so many levels. Here's what I posted in the thread:
It's ongoing, so check out the thread itself for more.
Atheists Refusing to Act Like Atheists | Hard-Core Christianity
Wrong on so many levels. Here's what I posted in the thread:
The blogpost linked in the OP is yet another example of a theist telling atheists what they believe.
Be that as it may, it is true that life has no ultimate meaning. But life has meaning _now_, because we are here living it. Theists seem to be obsessed with the idea of absolutes and ultimates, as if without these things one might as well just give up, because, you know, there's no ultimate point to anything.
Some people collect stamps — why do they do that? It's unlikely they do it because each stamp is worth a brownie point in heaven. More likely they do it because it's interesting, or it enables them to cultivate relationships with other stamp collectors, or maybe a good collection built up over years is worth money, or any number of perfectly valid other reasons, singly or in combination. They don't do it because some scripture says "Thou shalt collect adhesive postage tokens."
There's no ultimate meaning to life, the universe and everything — the purpose of life is life itself.
Monday, 19 August 2013
I have a cunning plot, but I don't yet know what it is
Today someone tweeted me to the effect that they had just finished listening to my podcast novel for the second time, and how was the sequel coming along....
I replied that the sequel had been started but progress was slow, due to the fact that I'd been doing other things. I assured them, however, that the sequel would be forthcoming. And I really meant it, despite not having touched the draft for several years. Every so often I get a query about the sequel, and I generally reply in the same vein, though each query fills me with guilt for withholding stuff from my listener/readership. This time the request spurred me to read what I'd got so far, and it turns out I really want to know what happens to the characters in the story.
There is only one way to find out, so I'll have to schedule some regular, major time to continue with the first draft.
I replied that the sequel had been started but progress was slow, due to the fact that I'd been doing other things. I assured them, however, that the sequel would be forthcoming. And I really meant it, despite not having touched the draft for several years. Every so often I get a query about the sequel, and I generally reply in the same vein, though each query fills me with guilt for withholding stuff from my listener/readership. This time the request spurred me to read what I'd got so far, and it turns out I really want to know what happens to the characters in the story.
There is only one way to find out, so I'll have to schedule some regular, major time to continue with the first draft.
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Tuesday, 13 August 2013
Burnee links for Tuesday
Not in our name: Dawkins dresses up bigotry as non-belief - he cannot be left to represent atheists - Comment - Voices - The Independent
Yet another in a lengthening list of anti-Dawkins pieces by atheists who want the "atheist community" to disown the notorious militant baby-eating atheist deathlord. Currently it's his (possibly ill-considered) 140-characters-or-less utterings on Twitter that are causing some of his erstwhile supporters exasperated sighs mixed with genuine puzzlement. (Personally I think there should be an alternative to Twitter, devoted solely to spleen-venting and invective. Maybe it should be called Splutter.) Dawkins is to a large extent a product of his background and upbringing, which by certain accounts included a modicum of tradition-borne privilege. Whether that privilege has in the past insulated him from the immediate effects of less-than-critically-self-aware spontaneous pronouncements I don't know. One can but speculate, and await the inevitable fall-out.
RDFRS: Calm reflections after a storm in a teacup
Richard Dawkins explains what he meant. That's all right then.
Kids can't use computers... and this is why it should worry you - Coding 2 Learn
A blogpost after my own heart. Think about it: if you rely so much on one particular aspect of your life, should you really be so clueless about "how it works" and "how to work it"?
Don't be fooled. Pope by name, pope by nature | Nick Cohen | Comment is free | The Observer
More of the same, then. Which ironically could be a good thing if it signals a continuing "no compromise" approach, and the Catholic Church's continuing marginalisation.
The Inspection of Steiner Schools | The Quackometer Blog
Andy Lewis makes some cutting remarks about an incident at a Steiner school, then goes on to express more general concerns about how inspection of Steiner schools is, to put it mildly, flawed.
'Unbelieving' WLC - William Lane Craig exposed by Lawrence Krauss - YouTube
It beats me why Krauss agreed to engage again with Craig, given what happened last time.
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RDFRS: Calm reflections after a storm in a teacup
Richard Dawkins explains what he meant. That's all right then.
Kids can't use computers... and this is why it should worry you - Coding 2 Learn
A blogpost after my own heart. Think about it: if you rely so much on one particular aspect of your life, should you really be so clueless about "how it works" and "how to work it"?
Don't be fooled. Pope by name, pope by nature | Nick Cohen | Comment is free | The Observer
More of the same, then. Which ironically could be a good thing if it signals a continuing "no compromise" approach, and the Catholic Church's continuing marginalisation.
The Inspection of Steiner Schools | The Quackometer Blog
Andy Lewis makes some cutting remarks about an incident at a Steiner school, then goes on to express more general concerns about how inspection of Steiner schools is, to put it mildly, flawed.
'Unbelieving' WLC - William Lane Craig exposed by Lawrence Krauss - YouTube
It beats me why Krauss agreed to engage again with Craig, given what happened last time.
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