Stephen Law: Religious Experience and Karen Armstrong's God
Well, that's that then.
Next up: Everything I have to say about William Lane Craig | The Uncredible Hallq
Should be interesting, and comprehensive; Chris Hallquist is no lightweight.
BBC Radio 2 - Ian D Montfort Is: Unbelievable
A truly fantastic radio psychic medium — cold reading and barnum statements given hilarious over-the-top treatment (original audio no longer available, but there's a two-minute clip on the site).
Fire-walking gone awry | Mano Singham
What happens when woo-meisters don't understand what's really going on...
Phlegmatic - Interpreting the Olympic Opening Ceremony
We all know the Olympics opening ceremony was highly symbolic, but here's a helpful explanation for those who might have got the wrong end of the stick.
(Via Paul Wright.)
Triablogue: Funeral for atheism
This is what you get when you can't see beyond dogmatic scripture.
Sunday, 5 August 2012
I get confidential email
This is another Facebook repost, from a while back:
I received a confidential email. I know it's a confidential email because it says it's confidential right there in the email itself. Plus, it's addressed to "undisclosed recipients" and you can't get more confidential than that. Anyway, here's what it said:
It's a terrible story. Miss Tagro's father was assassinated by rebels, but he seems to have been lucky in being able to stash away fifteen and a half million dollars in a safe private bank. Unfortunately Miss Tagro herself seems unable at present (though I can't see why) to use that money to invest in the UK and wants me to do it for her. Sympathetic as I am to her dire plight, I don't really see what I can do. I have little investment expertise so I can't honestly advise her, other than to suggest she contacts the concerns she wants to invest in and asks for their assistance. That, it seems to me, would be a more efficient way of going about things.
Also, I'm concerned that she thinks I might be some kind of right-wing Christian bigot, as she offers to convert to Christianity — as if that would make me more likely to assist her. It's all very confusing, and makes me wonder if she might not be a little unhinged as a result of her recent bereavement. I think she may have sent this request in grief-stricken haste and might possibly come to regret it. For the moment, therefore, I shall not respond, unless she contacts me again after taking some time to rethink her audacious plan.
(I'd be obliged if you folks didn't spread this around, since it is — as she states in her email — confidential.)
Check out the comments on the original post, as they shed some light on email scammers' motivations.
I received a confidential email. I know it's a confidential email because it says it's confidential right there in the email itself. Plus, it's addressed to "undisclosed recipients" and you can't get more confidential than that. Anyway, here's what it said:
As-Salamu Alaykum,
I am Aisha Tagro from Republic of Ivory Coast .Being that I lost my Father recently. My father was a Minister of interior withthe regime of Ex-president Laurent Gbagbo (Mr. Desire Tagro) until his death.
He was assassinated by the Rebels following the politicaluprising. Before his death, he deposited $15. 500,000.00 (Million dollars) Thefunds are in a safe private bank here is my country which I will give youdetails upon receipt of your acknowledgement of this confidential message Iwant you to do me a favour to retrieve this money from the bank and save itinto your bank account in your country or any safer place as the beneficiarymeanwhile I have plans to do investment in your country.
This is my reason for writing to you. Please, if youare willing to assist me indicate your interest by replying me soonest I don’tmine becoming a Christian if that is what I have to do to have a good and reliable assistance for my good future.
Best regards.
Yours sincerely,
Miss. Aisha Tagro.
Also, I'm concerned that she thinks I might be some kind of right-wing Christian bigot, as she offers to convert to Christianity — as if that would make me more likely to assist her. It's all very confusing, and makes me wonder if she might not be a little unhinged as a result of her recent bereavement. I think she may have sent this request in grief-stricken haste and might possibly come to regret it. For the moment, therefore, I shall not respond, unless she contacts me again after taking some time to rethink her audacious plan.
(I'd be obliged if you folks didn't spread this around, since it is — as she states in her email — confidential.)
Check out the comments on the original post, as they shed some light on email scammers' motivations.
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What's in your head counts more than what's on it
Those headgear option selectors are at it again. Talk about parading your blatant obscurantism for all to see. All together now — assert with me:
I'm wondering (again) exactly what "...bear His image" actually means. Like a tattoo? A brand? An earmark? And amongst the professed gratitude for atheistic criticism we of course we get the usual PA claim (which can never be delivered without its hallmark smugness):
Sez you.
(Reposted from Facebook.)
Inevitably the presup spiel bursts forth (though McFormtist manages to achieve this without using the word "account"):"Christianity is a process. It is a commitment, a vow, a pledge. It is a complete overhaul and reformation. The creatures of God, created for the purpose of living and breathing the truth and glory of their Creator: that is Christianity."
"As difficult as it may be to admit, even unbelievers are creatures of God and hence bear His image, and so due to common grace they are aware of such things as double-speak and hypocrisy, even if they aren’t consistent in their application of that judgment to themselves."
"Along the same lines of our response to the problem of evil, we should be thankful whenever we see unbelievers calling these things out. It demonstrates unbelievers’ recognition of evil. We must be careful to call evil “evil” and not make excuses for it. We must agree that evil is evil, but we must also be ready to make specific qualifications for what exactly constitutes it. We need to show them that they have no basis to call anything evil on their own terms, and that only on ours can they make any sense of evil and have a reason to fight against it."
(Reposted from Facebook.)
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"Compatibilist" free will — God-given?
This blog has been quiet of late, which I regret, but while I've neglected Evil Burnee I have been posting stuff on Facebook. So I've decided to repost anything remotely substantial here (edited as I consider necessary), while brief items will be included in Burnee Links (Facebook friends and subscribers may wish to tweak their settings if they feel they're getting too much of me).
Some really blinkered stuff has come out of Choosing Hats recently. Here's "RazorsKiss" simultaneously exhibiting the usual snark at "village atheists" while playing the mystery card with respect to "God's will". All while berating another believer who just happens not to be a member of the preferred sect. Also, note the "impossible state of God not existing" — a revealing assertion that tells us in no uncertain terms (as if we didn't already know) where this blogger is coming from. How about this:
So much for free will, as God has everything predetermined, and the death of those poor kids was their destiny. Pretty sick, in my opinion.
(Reposted from Facebook.)
Some really blinkered stuff has come out of Choosing Hats recently. Here's "RazorsKiss" simultaneously exhibiting the usual snark at "village atheists" while playing the mystery card with respect to "God's will". All while berating another believer who just happens not to be a member of the preferred sect. Also, note the "impossible state of God not existing" — a revealing assertion that tells us in no uncertain terms (as if we didn't already know) where this blogger is coming from. How about this:
"For all their talk of reason, and logic, note that it all arises from and because of random chance – which is definitionally irrational. If God doesn’t control all things in this pastor’s worldview, what does? He ceded the field, and has practically denied Isaiah 46, which says God has declared the end from the beginning."
(Reposted from Facebook.)
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Saturday, 28 July 2012
Atheist prayer — isn't this just silly?
Posted by Justin Brierley in his Unbelievable? Facebook group:
What on earth could this be? Getting atheists to pray to a god they don't believe in? Is there any way this "experiment" could be in the least valid?
Who knows? This strikes me as another theistic attempt to inject scientific rationality into something intrinsically irrational. I was highly skeptical of the recent experiment aiming to determine the efficacy of intercessory prayer. As it turned out, the study showed a marginally negative effect — that is, heart patients aware that they were being prayed for did slightly worse in their overall recovery. But that doesn't change my view that such experiments are pretty much worthless; after all, who's to say that any patients weren't being randomly prayed for by people not involved in the study, with consequently unpredictable skewing of the results? And isn't God supposed to take a dim view of being tested (despite being perfectly OK with testing his subjects — Abraham and Isaac, for instance)?
To me the whole idea seems like a pointless waste of time — nevertheless I await Justin's explication (though I'm not holding my breath).
UPDATE 20120819:
The paper by Tim Mawson to which Justin Brierley referred in his announcement is available here:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/a77r315j041p4213/?MUD=MP
The Atheist Prayer Experiment webpage is here:
http://www.premier.org.uk/atheistprayerexperiment
UPDATE 20120822:
More here:
Notes from an Evil Burnee: An experiment designed to be useless
Are you an atheist? If there is a God do you want to find out? On the latest show I announced The Atheist Prayer Experiment. I'll post up more details in due course, but if you want to take part then email unbelievable@premier.org.uk
Who knows? This strikes me as another theistic attempt to inject scientific rationality into something intrinsically irrational. I was highly skeptical of the recent experiment aiming to determine the efficacy of intercessory prayer. As it turned out, the study showed a marginally negative effect — that is, heart patients aware that they were being prayed for did slightly worse in their overall recovery. But that doesn't change my view that such experiments are pretty much worthless; after all, who's to say that any patients weren't being randomly prayed for by people not involved in the study, with consequently unpredictable skewing of the results? And isn't God supposed to take a dim view of being tested (despite being perfectly OK with testing his subjects — Abraham and Isaac, for instance)?
To me the whole idea seems like a pointless waste of time — nevertheless I await Justin's explication (though I'm not holding my breath).
UPDATE 20120819:
The paper by Tim Mawson to which Justin Brierley referred in his announcement is available here:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/a77r315j041p4213/?MUD=MP
The Atheist Prayer Experiment webpage is here:
http://www.premier.org.uk/atheistprayerexperiment
UPDATE 20120822:
More here:
Notes from an Evil Burnee: An experiment designed to be useless
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Thursday, 19 July 2012
Burnee links for Thursday
To Paula | The Heresy Club
I tend to agree. It saddens me that such a letter needs to be written.
Your freedom to impose your religion ends where your child begins | coelsblog
Circumscribing the circumcision debate.
History, My Bum Knee, and Some People I Want to Thank | Greta Christina's Blog
Western society makes progress.
Temple of the Future — We Have Failed Leah Libresco
James Croft says humanists must be able to explain their morality.
Tessera: The Emotional Eating Kit
Sounds like good stuff. Not actually harmful, anyway. Not anything, to tell the truth, but don't let that stop you throwing your money away if it makes you feel better (if not in actual fact better).
Voice of Reason: Lawrence Krauss - Reality is liberating - YouTube
"The great thing about science is not knowing."
Higgs Boson announcement from CERN: why the god particle is so important. - Slate Magazine
More Krauss, this time on the CERN announcement and nothing interesting.
I tend to agree. It saddens me that such a letter needs to be written.
Your freedom to impose your religion ends where your child begins | coelsblog
Circumscribing the circumcision debate.
History, My Bum Knee, and Some People I Want to Thank | Greta Christina's Blog
Western society makes progress.
Temple of the Future — We Have Failed Leah Libresco
James Croft says humanists must be able to explain their morality.
Tessera: The Emotional Eating Kit
Sounds like good stuff. Not actually harmful, anyway. Not anything, to tell the truth, but don't let that stop you throwing your money away if it makes you feel better (if not in actual fact better).
Voice of Reason: Lawrence Krauss - Reality is liberating - YouTube
"The great thing about science is not knowing."
Higgs Boson announcement from CERN: why the god particle is so important. - Slate Magazine
More Krauss, this time on the CERN announcement and nothing interesting.
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Wednesday, 18 July 2012
Moral argument for the existence of tedium
The moral argument for the existence of God is in my opinion so completely wrong, so groundless and so obviously flawed, that I find it astonishing anyone takes it seriously. And when I come across a screed that proposes the moral argument without a shred of embarrassment, I can only shake my head and move on. One such screed is this, by Jonathan McLatchie. I've looked at it, shaken my head and moved on from it more than once, but there remains a nagging concern that though its falsehood is plain to me, some people still — amazingly — take the argument seriously.
It's all very well for me to assert that the arguments put forth in this piece are spent and vacuous, but it seems there are some people to whom this is not apparent. Therefore, despite the tedium involved (and despite having done it before), I must perforce demonstrate why the argument so spectacularly fails.
This doesn't work at all. For a start it isn't a logically valid syllogism, because there's more than one definition of objective. McLatchie (like William Lane Craig) seems to be using a definition that requires objective moral values to mean God-given moral values — which of course is begging the question. His definition above is too vague: "a system of ethics which universally pertains irrespective of the opinions or tastes of human persons" and it craftily slips in the idea of universality being a necessary part of what it is to be objective. But objective is simply the opposite of subjective, that is, independent of any single individual. This does not rule out objective moral values that are formulated jointly, after consideration of the consequences of moral actions. Nor does it rule out objective moral values that can change according to circumstances. Right at the start, therefore, Premise 1 fails.
This always makes me laugh, because it implies that theism can provide "a defensible grounding for moral values." No theist can justify this, only merely assert it. Where do theists get their moral grounding? It's in a book — a book that no present-day theists had a hand in writing, that has no demonstrably sound provenance, and that contains "moral guidance" even theists admit — by their textual wrangling to make things fit — is of dubious moral value. When it comes to making moral decisions, I submit that ignoring circumstances and consequences in favour of "playing by the book" is an abdication of moral responsibility.
This doesn't work either. McLatchie has not established that there is, or needs to be, an "ultimate source of objective moral values and duties". In referring to moral ontology McLatchie is claiming that objective moral values and duties have some kind of existence in reality, independent of anything else. He hasn't established this, he's just assuming it.
There follows a fairly straight exposition of the Euthyphro dilemma, with this addendum:
Theists may indeed want to say that God is essentially loving, honest etc., but unfortunately they have no justification for saying it, other than to define God in this way. "It's God's nature," they say. But is God's nature essentially loving, honest etc., because it is God's? Or is God essentially loving, honest etc., because he is beholden to his nature? In answer, theists will eventually say that God and his nature are one and the same thing, which kind of makes the whole thing circular: God is good because good is God, and vice versa — unhelpful at best.
Actually it's not.
It's not at all clear to Jonathan McLatchie — that much is clear.
It's all very well for me to assert that the arguments put forth in this piece are spent and vacuous, but it seems there are some people to whom this is not apparent. Therefore, despite the tedium involved (and despite having done it before), I must perforce demonstrate why the argument so spectacularly fails.
Moral Argument – Overview
The moral argument for the existence of God refers to the claim that God is needed to provide a coherent ontological foundation for the existence of objective moral values and duties. The argument can be summarised in the following syllogism:
Premise 1: If God does not exist, then objective moral values and duties do not exist.
Premise 2: Objective moral values and duties do exist.
Conclusion: Therefore, God exists.
Since this is a logically valid syllogism, the atheist, in order to maintain his non-belief in God, must reject at least one of the two Premises. By “objective” morality we mean a system of ethics which universally pertains irrespective of the opinions or tastes of human persons: for example, the holocaust was morally wrong irrespective of what Hitler and the Nazis believed about it, and it would have remained morally wrong even if the Nazis had won World War II and compelled everyone into compliance with their values. This view, known in philosophy as “moral realism,” contrasts with “moral relativism” which maintains that no-one is objectively correct or incorrect with respect to their moral values and judgements.
Moreover, in the absence of theism, nobody has been able to conceive of a defensible grounding for moral values.
Moral Argument – An Important Distinction
It is important to bear in mind that the moral argument pertains to the ultimate source of objective moral values and duties (moral ontology) and not how we know what is moral or immoral (moral epistemology) and not 'what we mean' by good/bad or right/wrong (moral semantics). The theistic ethicist maintains that moral values are grounded in the character and nature of God.
There follows a fairly straight exposition of the Euthyphro dilemma, with this addendum:
The question is posed this way: Is x the right thing to do because God commands it, or does God command it because it is already the right thing to do? I take the former option. Normally, the problem with accepting the horn is that there is a presumption that the commands in question from God are arbitrary (i.e. God could have commanded that we ought to lie). But that's just false. The theist wants to say that God is essentially loving, honest etc., and therefore, in all worlds at which God exists, his commands are going to be consistent with his nature. And therefore, in all worlds, he will disapprove of lying.
Yeah, this stuff is hard, in case you hadn't noticed. So much easier to look it up in a book, and disregard any subsequent ramifications. Personally I'd rather entrust moral decisions to people who have carefully considered the circumstances and consequences of those decisions, than entrust them to a bunch of Christians with a crib-sheet.Moral Argument – The Shortcomings of UtilitarianismThere are various nontheistic systems of ethics, none of which succeed in providing a robust ontological foundation or objective moral values and duties. One of these systems, popularised recently by Sam Harris in his book The Moral Landscape, is called utilitarianism, and (in its most common formulation) refers to the view that ethics are determined by what constitutes the greatest happiness for the greatest number. One difficulty lies in the fact that it attempts to balance two different scales employed to assess the moral virtue of an action (i.e. the amount of utility produced and the number of people affected). This can often lead to conflicting answers—in some cases an activity might be considered better for a greater number of individuals whereas a different activity might create a greater overall utility. Utilitarians try to maximize with their actions the utility of the long-term consequences of those actions. However, short of possession of omniscience, it is impossible to evaluate the respective long-term results of different activities. Utilitarianism also does not take into account the individual’s intent—Activity X could be done sincerely by an individual who believes that what he is doing will create the maximum utility. But if activity X turns out in the long-term not to produce the desired utility, then his action, under the philosophy of utilitarianism, would be considered less moral than an activity that created more utility.
Moral Argument – Conclusion
In conclusion, the moral argument is a robust argument for the existence of God.
Humans, being shaped in the image of God, have an intuitive sense of right and wrong.Christians like to say that humans are "shaped in the image of God," but this is one of those meaningless phrases they can never explain. And the reason why we have an intuitive sense of right and wrong is because we have an evolved conscience.
It is not at all clear how the atheist, except at the expense of moral realism, can maintain an objective standard of ethics without such a being as God as his ontological foundation.
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