Following on from my recent post concerning the existence of the supernatural, I've pondered some more about how I view classifications of certain types of entities — particularly entities of agency. First, here are some supposed entities that I would class as natural or material: extraterrestrials; artificial intelligences; computer consciousness. And second, some I would class as supernatural: fairies; ghosts; gods. (Neither of these lists is intended as exhaustive.)
Natural or material entities are entities for which we have, or can expect, evidence. Supernatural entities are those for which evidence is, by definition, not possible. Supernatural entities are not susceptible to science and reason (though their supposed effects might be), so if you need to affect supernatural entities directly, you might try magic spells or other invocations instead.
If these are the only two categories available for entities of agency, then some people will accept that both categories are "real", while others will accept only one. Personally I think that the material realm is real and the supernatural isn't.
During a debate I attended on 29 November 2009 at Wellington College, on the motion "Atheism is the new Fundamentalism", the tentative wording of the Atheist Bus Campaign was brought up, and Anthony Seldon, moderating, interjected to Richard Dawkins, "Does that mean there may be a God?"
Dawkins replied, "There may be a leprechaun."
Lord Richard Harries took extreme offence at this. "You can't let Richard get away with that. That's a ridiculous remark. You cannot confuse the God of classical theism, which has animated the whole of western philosophy, with a leprechaun."
"Why not?" asked Dawkins. "Why not?"
The video clip is here (there's a general discussion of agnosticism vs atheism, and the wording of the Bus Campaign, but the above exchange begins at about 6'50"):
http://youtu.be/ea1r2FIW6xQ
Harries' umbrage illustrates the fundamental conceit of theological thinking. By taking the existence of the deity as an unquestioned presupposition, theology has built up an intricate and largely impenetrable cat's cradle of obfuscation. However many billions of words have been written on the subject, at bottom there's no evidence that the object (God) of the subject (theology) actually exists. It's all so much hot air, with a degree of reality exactly on a par with a leprechaun.
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Thursday, 15 October 2009
Ariane Sherine at TAM London
If any one person is likely to dispel the notion that atheists are all heartless nihilists, that person must be the lovely Ariane Sherine, who graced the Mermaid stage after lunch on Saturday, to give us the full story of the Atheist Bus Campaign.
It's a heartwarming tale that began with her initial reaction to a Christian bus advertisement and the uncompromising website it linked to (with its dire warning of Hell), and her subsequent suggestion in the Guardian that atheists might like to club together and pay for an ad with a less intimidating message. After a couple of false starts — gleefully snickered at by the press — the campaign suddenly took off, reaching its funding target within hours of its formal launch. The final sum raised was in excess of £150,000 — about 14 times the initial target of £11,000.
News of the campaign's overwhelming success quickly travelled around the globe, prompting similar efforts in many other countries. Atheism, it seemed, had arrived. By bus.
The campaign did have its detractors, many of whom showed up in Ariane Sherine's email, and she treated us to a sad selection of these. They were, however, vastly outnumbered by messages of support, and she thanked those who had been vocal in their encouragement.
Now there's a book. The Atheist's Guide to Christmas is an anthology of contributions from many well known people of the godless persuasion, with all royalties going to the Terrence Higgins Trust. Not bad, for a bunch of nihilistic heathens with nary a moral amongst them.
Ariane Sherine seemed to spend a good deal of her time during the two days of TAM London tirelessly signing copies of the book she edited. No quick-scrawl-and-on-to-the-next for her — each book was patiently inscribed while chatting pleasantly to the recipient. If Richard Dawkins is Britain's most prominent atheist, whom the atheist community might (or might not) like to name as some kind of figurehead, Ariane Sherine is the atheist many of the younger generation must surely aspire to be.
Monday, 3 August 2009
There's probably no God, so learn to dance like a zombie
http://www.oneandother.co.uk/participants/krypto

As part of Antony Gormley's living art "One & Other" on the empty fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square, lots of people are getting their chance to become a piece of artwork for 60 minutes. One such is Andrew West, a "plinther" who used his hour on Sunday afternoon to teach onlookers the dance moves to Michael Jackson's "Thriller", while displaying the BHA's atheist bus advertisement. If you watch the video (click on the image above) you'll see that Ariane Sherine, creator of the Atheist Bus Campaign, is amongst those on the ground learning the dance.
Seems like a good time was had by all. You can see what's going on right now by watching the live feed.

As part of Antony Gormley's living art "One & Other" on the empty fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square, lots of people are getting their chance to become a piece of artwork for 60 minutes. One such is Andrew West, a "plinther" who used his hour on Sunday afternoon to teach onlookers the dance moves to Michael Jackson's "Thriller", while displaying the BHA's atheist bus advertisement. If you watch the video (click on the image above) you'll see that Ariane Sherine, creator of the Atheist Bus Campaign, is amongst those on the ground learning the dance.
Seems like a good time was had by all. You can see what's going on right now by watching the live feed.

Sunday, 15 March 2009
Jon Holmes on the Atheist Bus
On Friday's Now Show on BBC Radio 4 Jon Holmes got to grips with Christian reaction to the Atheist Bus ads.
Full half-hour show available on BBC iPlayer here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00j1f9k/The_Now_Show_Series_26_Episode_2/
Or as a podcast here:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/fricomedy/fricomedy_20090313-1855a.mp3
Relevant clip (5'06" 2.4 Mb) here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/341827122/NowShow_AtheistBus_BBBCR4i-20090313.mp3
Full half-hour show also available here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/341830591/fricomedy_20090313-1855a.mp3
Now Show website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/nowshow.shtml

Full half-hour show available on BBC iPlayer here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00j1f9k/The_Now_Show_Series_26_Episode_2/
Or as a podcast here:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/fricomedy/fricomedy_20090313-1855a.mp3
Relevant clip (5'06" 2.4 Mb) here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/341827122/NowShow_AtheistBus_BBBCR4i-20090313.mp3
Full half-hour show also available here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/341830591/fricomedy_20090313-1855a.mp3
Now Show website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/nowshow.shtml
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Thursday, 15 January 2009
Ariane Sherine delivers her Thought for the Afternoon on BBC Radio 4

Ariane did a good job, with a well thought out thought, nicely presented. But I'll be extremely surprised if "Thought for the Afternoon" becomes a regular spot (and I'll be flabbergasted if Thought For The Day on the Today programme is opened up to secular viewpoints).
iPM website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/
Audio available as an mp3 in the iPM podcast feed or as a direct download:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/ipm/ipm_20090110-1800a.mp3

The relevant clip - 9'19" 4.3 MB mp3 - can also be downloaded from RapidShare here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/341835073/ArianeSherine_iPM_BBCR4dtt-20090110.mp3
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Sunday, 26 October 2008
An Atheist Bus roundup

Ariane Sherine: All aboard the atheist bus campaign | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
When I made my modest donation to the fund in the evening of the day it launched, there was a notice to say that the target (£5,500) had been reached shortly after 10 am. During the time it took me to enter my credit card details the fund increased by about £2,000. The last time I checked (while writing this post) the fund stood at £108,506.83.
There's been a good deal of adverse comment from both believers and non-believers in the press and online - but the important thing is that people are talking about the campaign. To facilitate further discussions I offer this roundup of comment:
The Freethinker › It’s a miracle! - Resurrected atheist bus campaign takes off like a rocket
No-God squad climb aboard the atheist bus | Joan Bakewell - Times Online
The Guardian has aggregated relevant articles from Comment is Free into a single page:
Comment is free + Atheism | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Atheism on a bus :: Nick Spencer :: Telegraph
D J Taylor: Beyond belief - Commentators, Opinion - The Independent
Howard Jacobson: So God 'probably' doesn't exist. Don't these atheists have any conviction? - The Independent
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