Last February's Question.Explore.Discover conference in Manchester was a great success, and Northwest Skeptical Events Ltd are doing the whole thing again next March. The list of speakers so far announced looks impressive. No news on a "break-out room" yet.
Tickets went on sale today. I've got mine, and I'm booked in to a nearby Travelodge (I note that the conference hotel — the Ramada Jarvis Piccadilly — has upped its room rates, such that the Travelodge is now more than just marginally cheaper.)
If the last QEDcon is anything to go by, next year's should be a superb event and lots of fun, beginning with the meet and greet, pre-registration session on Friday in the hotel bar.
Monday, 29 August 2011
Sunday, 28 August 2011
Euthyphro and 500
As my blogging activity declines (temporarily, I hope) I will now attempt to justify this as deliberate deceleration for the purposes of emphasising a milestone. This is my 500th Evil Burnee post, and to mark it I will do no more than post a recent take on religious morality:
http://youtu.be/pwf6QD-REMY
This is Plato's Euthyphro dilemma, as discussed with Matt Flannagan on the latest Skepticule Extra (number 13, to be posted shortly).
As for my semi-millenial blogposting and whether the number will increase at the same rate, it's not that I haven't anything to write about — over the past couple of weeks I built up a list of things I wanted (and still want) to cover — my problem is finding time to do the actual writing.
Watch this space.
http://youtu.be/pwf6QD-REMY
This is Plato's Euthyphro dilemma, as discussed with Matt Flannagan on the latest Skepticule Extra (number 13, to be posted shortly).
As for my semi-millenial blogposting and whether the number will increase at the same rate, it's not that I haven't anything to write about — over the past couple of weeks I built up a list of things I wanted (and still want) to cover — my problem is finding time to do the actual writing.
Watch this space.
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Burnee links for another Sunday
Still busy, still less blogging, still hopeful for more. Some links 4 U:
GCU Dancer on the Midway - Bad arguments about religion: faith and evidence
Paul Wright with various insights (including David Hume's) into how much "faith" is OK.
Muslim Woman Assaults Photographer, Toronto Police Say It's OK
I really hope this is a rare occurrence.
The Flow of Time | Cosmic Variance | Discover Magazine
I have always thought that our concept of "time" is flawed, or at least overly simplistic. That's why I have problems suspending disbelief when reading time-travel stories.
A very sad story | Pharyngula
PZ inveighs against religious puritanism. Now there's a surprise.
The strength of Dawkins, and the murk of accommodationism | Pharyngula
It's true. Why hide it? PZ (again) stands beside Richard Dawkins to denounce ignorant folly at the top of the Republican Party.
Evolution threatens Christianity - On Faith - The Washington Post
Paula Kirby on why evolution is so damaging to the beliefs of the religious right. Clear and concise prose that ought to be read by all school governors.
GCU Dancer on the Midway - Bad arguments about religion: faith and evidence
Paul Wright with various insights (including David Hume's) into how much "faith" is OK.
Muslim Woman Assaults Photographer, Toronto Police Say It's OK
I really hope this is a rare occurrence.
The Flow of Time | Cosmic Variance | Discover Magazine
I have always thought that our concept of "time" is flawed, or at least overly simplistic. That's why I have problems suspending disbelief when reading time-travel stories.
A very sad story | Pharyngula
PZ inveighs against religious puritanism. Now there's a surprise.
The strength of Dawkins, and the murk of accommodationism | Pharyngula
It's true. Why hide it? PZ (again) stands beside Richard Dawkins to denounce ignorant folly at the top of the Republican Party.
Evolution threatens Christianity - On Faith - The Washington Post
Paula Kirby on why evolution is so damaging to the beliefs of the religious right. Clear and concise prose that ought to be read by all school governors.
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Saturday, 27 August 2011
The Philosophy of the Mind — Dr. Clio Bellenis
The audio of Dr. Clio's talk two weeks ago at Portsmouth Skeptics in the Pub is now available for your listening and enlightening pleasure:
http://www.skepticule.co.uk/2011/08/skeprec-005-20110811.html
This recording is an example of what's kept me busy recently (and reduced my blogging activities). It involved more than one portable recorder and therefore required careful editing. Despite being hi-tech crystal-controlled digital technology these devices rarely stay in synch for more than a few minutes. I must also find a simple and effective way to record contributions from the audience when there isn't a roving mic.
Technical problems aside, it was a fascinating talk with much that was relevant to what we've been talking about in Skepticule Extra (particularly SkepExtra 010 when our guest was Rosemary Lyndall Wemm).
Photo by Malcolm Stein
http://www.skepticule.co.uk/2011/08/skeprec-005-20110811.html
This recording is an example of what's kept me busy recently (and reduced my blogging activities). It involved more than one portable recorder and therefore required careful editing. Despite being hi-tech crystal-controlled digital technology these devices rarely stay in synch for more than a few minutes. I must also find a simple and effective way to record contributions from the audience when there isn't a roving mic.
Technical problems aside, it was a fascinating talk with much that was relevant to what we've been talking about in Skepticule Extra (particularly SkepExtra 010 when our guest was Rosemary Lyndall Wemm).
Photo by Malcolm Stein
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Sunday, 21 August 2011
Burnee links for Sunday
Rick Perry and the scandal of prayer - On Faith - The Washington Post
This has to be said? Unfortunately yes, and Paula Kirby says it very well indeed.
The Rants of Cherry Black » Blog Archive » Meanwhile, back in the UK…
A sense of perspective.
Wait, what if idiocy is blood-borne? | Pharyngula
Disgraceful.
Case Study: How a notorious spammer was brought down via Twitter « Skeptical Software Tools
It's gone very quiet — at least in the spamland of David Mabus/Dennis Markuze.
Sick cat owner who microwaved his pet walks free from court - Law and Order - The News
What caught my eye in this story from the online version of my local paper was the implication in the headline that the cat-owner walked free because he was sick. I expected to read something about his schizophrenia, clinical depression or some other disorder.
Liberal intellectuals are frightened of confronting Islam's honour-shame culture – Telegraph Blogs
Elucidating the problem with Islam — an unreconstructed fundamentalist religion still caught up in its relatively recent past. Hard-line Islam is clearly incompatible with contemporary global culture, therefore it must change or be defeated, or at least marginalized.
This has to be said? Unfortunately yes, and Paula Kirby says it very well indeed.
The Rants of Cherry Black » Blog Archive » Meanwhile, back in the UK…
A sense of perspective.
Wait, what if idiocy is blood-borne? | Pharyngula
Disgraceful.
Case Study: How a notorious spammer was brought down via Twitter « Skeptical Software Tools
It's gone very quiet — at least in the spamland of David Mabus/Dennis Markuze.
Sick cat owner who microwaved his pet walks free from court - Law and Order - The News
What caught my eye in this story from the online version of my local paper was the implication in the headline that the cat-owner walked free because he was sick. I expected to read something about his schizophrenia, clinical depression or some other disorder.
Sick Stephen Stacey crudely named the cat ‘come on then’, an aggressive phrase used by people in a bid to start a fight.He's described in the body of the report as "sick", but I don't think the journalist is using the word in its medical sense. Rather, the word is applied as an unsubstantiated value judgement. The accompanying photograph is captioned "YOB Stephen Stacey". Whatever I might think about Stephen Stacey's reported actions, this is poor journalism.
Liberal intellectuals are frightened of confronting Islam's honour-shame culture – Telegraph Blogs
Elucidating the problem with Islam — an unreconstructed fundamentalist religion still caught up in its relatively recent past. Hard-line Islam is clearly incompatible with contemporary global culture, therefore it must change or be defeated, or at least marginalized.
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Saturday, 20 August 2011
Incredible miracles require credible evidence
In my previous post in this series I answered the question, "Who do YOU say Jesus was?" with the following:
It's clear that I don't think Jesus was a supernatural being. But could a non-supernatural being perform supernatural actions?
Chapter 28 of Dembski & Licona's Evidence for God is "The Credibility of Jesus's Miracles" by Craig L. Blomberg, in which he puts forward the idea that the historical record of Jesus performing miracles is a true account. Unfortunately for his thesis he employs too many assumptions in order to come to this conclusion. For example, here's part of his attempt to establish the existence of God (a necessary precursor to the divinity — and therefore miracle-workings — of Jesus):
Blomberg's implication here is not just that there must have been a cause for these things, but that the cause was necessarily divine.
I think he's misappropriating Hume here. Hume stated that reports of miracles could only be accepted as true if the alternative explanation — that the reports are false — would have to be more miraculous than the miracles themselves. That rules out most of Jesus's miracles right at the start. And arguments by analogy carry little weight. Analogies are useful in explaining the general nature of things, but eventually all analogies break down because they are only "like" the things they are analogous to, not identical to them.
Blomberg goes on to challenge the idea that there were lots of reports of miracles in myth and legend that are similar to those allegedly performed by Jesus:
He seems to be claiming that the Gospel miracles were of a quite different order from the examples he gives, but I don't see it. Whether a person was actually a god or not has little effect on the credibility of the story when that story is already incredible. Consciously or not, Blomberg is using special pleading to impart undeserved credibility to his preferred account. He does the same with the resurrection story, but here we begin to see a pattern emerging.
If the miracles of Jesus are similar to other miraculous events reported in ancient texts, then that similarity lends the reports credence, because those reporting them knew what they witnessed and wrote about. If the miracles of Jesus were wholly different from those other miracles, they are thereby rescued from the skepticism duly applied to those other, more mundane miracles. Blomberg wants it both ways.
But if that doesn't work, he tells us that most of those other miraculous accounts were based on the miracles of Jesus anyway, in a frenzy of "me too!" copycat miracle-working. I can't help seeing some desperation here. He wants it to be true, but the "evidence" is really thin, and frankly unconvincing.
One might fairly question my own disposition regarding these accounts. I don't think they're true, and I have a bias in my interpretation of them. But we're talking about miracles — extraordinary events that require extraordinary evidence. That evidence is not forthcoming, and until it is, I'll go with the account that fits with my experience of the natural world around me — the world for which there is evidence.
4truth.net:
http://www.4truth.net/fourtruthpbjesus.aspx?pageid=8589952909
It seems likely that Jesus was an itinerant preacher who developed a considerable local following, to the extent that he annoyed the established religion of the time, which got rid of him in an effort to preserve the status quo.
Chapter 28 of Dembski & Licona's Evidence for God is "The Credibility of Jesus's Miracles" by Craig L. Blomberg, in which he puts forward the idea that the historical record of Jesus performing miracles is a true account. Unfortunately for his thesis he employs too many assumptions in order to come to this conclusion. For example, here's part of his attempt to establish the existence of God (a necessary precursor to the divinity — and therefore miracle-workings — of Jesus):
One of the most exciting and encouraging developments in recent years in this respect is the intelligent design movement. Pointing to numerous examples of fundamental entities in the natural and biological worlds that display irreducible complexity, even some scientists who are not Christians at all have acknowledged that there must be an intelligent being behind this creation. The entire "big-bang" theory for the beginnings of the universe leads to the question of what or who produced that "bang." (p 147.)
For others, philosophical arguments like those of the famous seventeenth-century Scotsman, David Hume, turn out to be more persuasive. While not alleging that miracles are impossible, the claim now is that the probability of a natural explanation will always be greater than that of a supernatural one. Phenomena could mislead, witnesses could be mistaken and, besides, explanations of events must have analogies to what has happened in the past. But it is not at all clear that any of these arguments mean that the evidence could never be unambiguous and the witnesses unassailable. And if every event must have a known analogy, then people in the tropics before modern technology could never have accepted that ice exists! (p 147-8.)
Blomberg goes on to challenge the idea that there were lots of reports of miracles in myth and legend that are similar to those allegedly performed by Jesus:
It is curious how often laypeople and even some scholars repeat the charge that the Gospel miracles sound just like the legends of other ancient religions without having carefully studied the competing accounts. For example, it is often alleged that there were virgin births and resurrection stories all over the ancient religious landscape. But, in fact, most of the alleged parallels to special births involve ordinary human sexual relations coupled simply with the belief that one of the persons was actually a god or goddess incognito. Or, as with the conception of Alexander the Great, in one legend almost a millennium later than his lifetime, a giant Python intertwined around Alexander's mother on her honeymoon night, keeping his father at a discrete distance and impregnating the young woman. (p 148.)
If the miracles of Jesus are similar to other miraculous events reported in ancient texts, then that similarity lends the reports credence, because those reporting them knew what they witnessed and wrote about. If the miracles of Jesus were wholly different from those other miracles, they are thereby rescued from the skepticism duly applied to those other, more mundane miracles. Blomberg wants it both ways.
But if that doesn't work, he tells us that most of those other miraculous accounts were based on the miracles of Jesus anyway, in a frenzy of "me too!" copycat miracle-working. I can't help seeing some desperation here. He wants it to be true, but the "evidence" is really thin, and frankly unconvincing.
One might fairly question my own disposition regarding these accounts. I don't think they're true, and I have a bias in my interpretation of them. But we're talking about miracles — extraordinary events that require extraordinary evidence. That evidence is not forthcoming, and until it is, I'll go with the account that fits with my experience of the natural world around me — the world for which there is evidence.
4truth.net:
http://www.4truth.net/fourtruthpbjesus.aspx?pageid=8589952909
Friday, 19 August 2011
So You Want To Be an Exorcist — BBC Radio 4
This BBC Radio 4 half-hour programme appears to be a serious documentary, but the deadpan delivery of presenter Jolyon Jenkins, and the words of his interviewees, put me inexorably in mind of the spoof documentary series, "People Like Us" — and I couldn't shake the suspicion that the whole thing might be a send-up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012x12c
(Streaming audio available in perpetuity or until the beginning of 2099, whichever occurs first.)
It was HumanistLife, the news and blogging website of the British Humanist Association (and for which I've written), that linked to the programme and I can see why. The idea of demonic possession seems completely out of kilter with our contemporary world — and I for one don't believe a word of it. But there are those who think it's real, despite much of the rationalization sounding like archaic interpretation of symptoms more likely due to other causes — such as, for instance, constitutional indolence.
What's disturbing is that some of the people being exorcised should probably be undergoing treatment for clinical depression. Convincing them they are possessed by an evil spirit seems at the very least counterproductive.
That people can take this stuff seriously is symptomatic of the tenacity of magical thinking. Here we have the suggestion that you can be controlled against your will by having a little person (who isn't you) inside your body — or your mind — inhabiting your unconscious and making you behave "out of character". Sounds to me like a massive excuse for something or other.
During the course of the programme Jolyon Jenkins gets the opportunity to attend an actual exorcism, and he is given permission to record it. But at the last moment the exorcist tells him that he can't record audio of the event, only take notes. Undaunted, Jolyon Jenkins does just that, after which we are treated to a spirited re-enactment of the whole thing where he performs all the voices.
It's a well-made programme, and actually quite fun — but don't take it as gospel. (To be on the safe side though, you should avoid yoga, horoscopes and wearing or driving anything black. I always thought those London cabbies looked a bit suspicious....)
For another (far more sensational) take on demonic possession you should check out Bob Larson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012x12c
(Streaming audio available in perpetuity or until the beginning of 2099, whichever occurs first.)
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What's disturbing is that some of the people being exorcised should probably be undergoing treatment for clinical depression. Convincing them they are possessed by an evil spirit seems at the very least counterproductive.
Why do exorcists and their clients think that demonic possession is on the increase? Exorcists point to an alleged increase in interest in the occult, together with risky behaviour such as practising yoga, reading horoscopes, and an increase in new age forms of spiritualism. One Anglican bishop has said that clues to the presence of an evil spirit include "repeated choice of black, for example in clothing or colour of car".
During the course of the programme Jolyon Jenkins gets the opportunity to attend an actual exorcism, and he is given permission to record it. But at the last moment the exorcist tells him that he can't record audio of the event, only take notes. Undaunted, Jolyon Jenkins does just that, after which we are treated to a spirited re-enactment of the whole thing where he performs all the voices.
It's a well-made programme, and actually quite fun — but don't take it as gospel. (To be on the safe side though, you should avoid yoga, horoscopes and wearing or driving anything black. I always thought those London cabbies looked a bit suspicious....)
For another (far more sensational) take on demonic possession you should check out Bob Larson.
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