Ludo Lonsdale
JD Kain You're all worshiping a false god. The one true god is the pink unicorn.
http://youtu.be/itYf-7iasyw
- Paul Jenkins I do indeed, thanks. No more to be said.
Unless of course you have evidence for the five senses and the mind being gifts from a supernatural being, or some coherent and communicable notion of the "Holy Spirit". (It's difficult to a respond to a question about an entity whose supposed identity, nature and existence are shrouded in obscurity and obfuscation.) 
Robert Stovold To clarify, Ludo, are you saying that no amount of evidence from your 5 senses will be sufficient to change the belief that you currently hold about the Holy Spirit?- Ludo Lonsdale Obviously Mr J Christianity is quite confusing to yourself. That is why the Psalmist says"Happy are those who fear the Lord~all who follow His ways !You will enjoy the fruit of your labor ! How happy will you be ! How rich your life !That is the Lord's reward for those who fear Him".
- Paul Jenkins What has a psalm got to do with the question you asked (which was about the Holy Spirit)?
- Paul Jenkins Quoting a scriptural poetry doesn't really help alleviate confusion — it only adds to it. Christians, I find, are fond of retreating into metaphor, simile and symbolic language when asked straight questions. It suggests they don't have actual answers. (Which is fine, by the way. I don't have answers for lots of things, but I'd rather not pretend that I do.)
- Ludo Lonsdale At this point in time Mr Stovold having been around the block a few times so to speak, my five senses having thus brought me this far there is nothing to change my mind.It was not just my 5 senses that that brought me to where i am may I add. I leave you to ponder on that.
- Paul Jenkins What's to ponder, Ludo? Something other than the evidence of your five senses fixes you in your faith but you're not prepared to say what it is? Why are you posting in this forum?
- Ludo Lonsdale Mr J it is ok to say' I dont know' which a lot of people do find it hard to say but can assure you am not a wing it or blagger Amen
- Paul Jenkins But for the record, I note that we have yet to hear any reason why we should be craving leadership from the Holy Spirit, or any supplemental explanation of what such an entity might be, or how we may know that it's anything more than a figment of an ancient scribe's imagination.
- Paul Jenkins Could you be more specific, Ludo? I'm here at my computer because I want to check my email before going to bed.
- Ludo Lonsdale Never mind your computer that will still be there in the morning why are you here is the question what is your purpose ?
- Paul Jenkins Like I said my purpose in being at my computer is to check my email. I want to do it now rather than in the morning because I have other things to do in the morning. It's fairly simple, really.
- Ludo Lonsdale No Mr J thats why you are there you have avoided the question of why you are here alive on this planet and for what purpose are you here
- Gunnar Hardråde You are assuming that there is a purpose for our existence, outside what we make for ourselves.
- Paul Jenkins Ludo, that's why I asked you to be more specific. You asked "Why are we really here?" As I couldn't speak for anyone else I told you why I was here. If you want to know if I think the universe as a whole has a purpose, my reply is that I don't believe so.
- Paul Jenkins The attitude of the universe to the human race (or to anything else for that matter) is one of "blind pitiless indifference". (That's a quote, BTW.)
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